1 00:00:24,730 --> 00:00:20,140 welcome to shattered reality with your 2 00:00:27,029 --> 00:00:24,740 hosts kate valentine and ferocia prepare 3 00:00:31,749 --> 00:00:27,039 to head her paradigms shifted into 4 00:00:37,330 --> 00:00:31,759 truths questioned and now shattered 5 00:00:40,330 --> 00:00:37,340 reality hey there this is farrugia and 6 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:40,340 Cape Valentine welcome back yes indeed 7 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:44,510 we have a wonderful guest today it is 8 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:48,530 mr. Kent Pfeiffer and he is according to 9 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:51,530 my understanding he is the head of New 10 00:01:00,430 --> 00:00:56,960 Jersey MUFON he has been a pilot and a 11 00:01:03,540 --> 00:01:00,440 Desert Storm veteran and in addition to 12 00:01:09,070 --> 00:01:03,550 that he maintains one of the most 13 00:01:12,249 --> 00:01:09,080 comprehensive UFO websites filled with 14 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:12,259 wonderful accounts and pictures and all 15 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:16,310 sorts of things called world UFO and in 16 00:01:26,170 --> 00:01:20,740 addition to that um he himself is an 17 00:01:30,039 --> 00:01:26,180 investigator of the Mars photographs and 18 00:01:35,289 --> 00:01:30,049 the moon photographs and he has found a 19 00:01:41,770 --> 00:01:35,299 number of startling anomalies so let me 20 00:01:44,260 --> 00:01:41,780 welcome our friend mr. Kent Pfeiffer hey 21 00:01:46,510 --> 00:01:44,270 thanks for thanks for being here can we 22 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:46,520 really appreciate I saw on your website 23 00:01:54,219 --> 00:01:50,450 some of the anomalies are fascinating is 24 00:01:56,770 --> 00:01:54,229 it yeah yeah I have a I have quite a few 25 00:01:59,529 --> 00:01:56,780 i buy though i think i sent you not only 26 00:02:02,859 --> 00:01:59,539 a few i have literally hundreds of them 27 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:02,869 out there and i have been searching some 28 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:05,210 last night a fan of a few other strange 29 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:09,740 things and and it's up sometimes I think 30 00:02:14,110 --> 00:02:11,690 I'm the only one out there just looking 31 00:02:17,229 --> 00:02:14,120 at these a high-definition photos from 32 00:02:19,470 --> 00:02:17,239 from NASA from the moon Mars I was 33 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:19,480 looking at some mercury photos 34 00:02:25,050 --> 00:02:22,090 right mercury is fascinating the colors 35 00:02:28,530 --> 00:02:25,060 on Mercury are just unbelievable now 36 00:02:32,490 --> 00:02:28,540 they say something very I saw a special 37 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:32,500 on TV about it and and of course mercury 38 00:02:37,410 --> 00:02:34,450 is the closest planet to the Sun I 39 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:37,420 believe they say it's a roughly about 40 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:40,510 800 degrees Fahrenheit but strange 41 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:43,030 enough they feel that they have found 42 00:02:49,380 --> 00:02:47,110 these or water or ice on Mercury and I'm 43 00:02:51,390 --> 00:02:49,390 still having trouble wrapping my head 44 00:02:54,809 --> 00:02:51,400 around that oh you know I think I know 45 00:02:56,789 --> 00:02:54,819 the reason for that can what I think and 46 00:03:00,119 --> 00:02:56,799 I could be mistaken i'm not an 47 00:03:03,119 --> 00:03:00,129 astronomer but it it always one side 48 00:03:06,539 --> 00:03:03,129 always faces the Sun in other words we 49 00:03:11,580 --> 00:03:06,549 have a 24-hour day but their day is 50 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:11,590 exactly as long as they're circulated 51 00:03:16,410 --> 00:03:13,329 you know what making one circle around 52 00:03:19,559 --> 00:03:16,420 one revolution revolution around the Sun 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:19,569 so one side of the planet is hotter than 54 00:03:27,690 --> 00:03:24,130 the hinges of heck and the other side is 55 00:03:29,940 --> 00:03:27,700 not as hot um and it can get rather coal 56 00:03:32,940 --> 00:03:29,950 because it never faces the Sun now I 57 00:03:34,979 --> 00:03:32,950 think that's the reason well it that is 58 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:34,989 the reason that was given however how 59 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:37,030 did it acquire water in the first place 60 00:03:43,140 --> 00:03:39,880 and why didn't it just know I'm going to 61 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:43,150 forget the term this is great just just 62 00:03:50,190 --> 00:03:47,290 not sublimate supplement yeah yeah yeah 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:50,200 well I don't know but they say now nASA 64 00:03:57,990 --> 00:03:54,250 has said that the whole solar system is 65 00:04:00,659 --> 00:03:58,000 awash in water that there turns out 66 00:04:04,289 --> 00:04:00,669 there's a lot more water in the solar 67 00:04:08,629 --> 00:04:04,299 system than previously thought um so can 68 00:04:14,490 --> 00:04:08,639 do you think that that could be a sign 69 00:04:17,970 --> 00:04:14,500 towards maybe a little bit of a little 70 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:17,980 bit of a disclosure 71 00:04:25,140 --> 00:04:22,390 uh i don't know i don't think so i think 72 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:25,150 basically what's it saying to me is is 73 00:04:29,340 --> 00:04:27,730 you know I respect the scientists and 74 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:29,350 you know I wish I was a scientist myself 75 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:31,120 and i wish i had the education that 76 00:04:36,450 --> 00:04:33,940 these signs just do but quite frankly I 77 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:36,460 think these scientists are guessing and 78 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:38,110 and you know it seems like every day 79 00:04:43,620 --> 00:04:41,380 every week we're finding new things that 80 00:04:46,020 --> 00:04:43,630 are or blowing the scientists theories 81 00:04:49,620 --> 00:04:46,030 out of the water you know I really don't 82 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:49,630 think we really know that much I think 83 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:51,490 we're just guessing at this point you 84 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:53,370 know especially with this mercury 85 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:55,930 finding here with with the ice or water 86 00:05:01,950 --> 00:04:57,610 or mercury I mean who would have thought 87 00:05:04,650 --> 00:05:01,960 yeah really well it's changing theories 88 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:04,660 as we speak it's more than the water 89 00:05:09,030 --> 00:05:06,610 they found a black what they felt was an 90 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:09,040 organic matter on top of the water oh my 91 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:11,440 goodness yeah yeah yeah I didn't read 92 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:13,090 that that's news to me I guess I'm a 93 00:05:17,850 --> 00:05:15,370 little bit wheels on my reading NASA's 94 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:17,860 weather site or so tell so yeah I have 95 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:19,210 to take a look at that well not only 96 00:05:24,210 --> 00:05:21,690 that a long time ago there was somebody 97 00:05:28,010 --> 00:05:24,220 who was a guy from Chicago that 98 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:28,020 investigated the the airport sighting I 99 00:05:32,010 --> 00:05:30,310 can't say you're saying but anyway he 100 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:32,020 was very interested in going to the 101 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:34,720 southwest and he found that there was an 102 00:05:40,260 --> 00:05:37,440 indication on some of the ancient 103 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:40,270 pictographs or whatever that they had 104 00:05:45,660 --> 00:05:42,850 found this black Atari substance that 105 00:05:47,460 --> 00:05:45,670 they felt was a precursor to DNA while 106 00:05:49,380 --> 00:05:47,470 he was investigating that and of course 107 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:49,390 you had the x-files with that black gunk 108 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:52,960 and of course the red rain yeah India 109 00:05:58,590 --> 00:05:55,120 and all of that yeah sorry can't be coy 110 00:06:01,500 --> 00:05:58,600 yeah what we we show them I'm not 111 00:06:04,020 --> 00:06:01,510 learning as i listen here but we should 112 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:04,030 be asking you to give a little bit of a 113 00:06:11,730 --> 00:06:07,090 history about yourself and how is that 114 00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:11,740 you became so fascinated with the UFO 115 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:14,260 topic because we are both fascinated 116 00:06:20,370 --> 00:06:17,590 with the topic now i think i sent you 117 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:20,380 i'm pretty sure accentuate i'm assuming 118 00:06:25,950 --> 00:06:23,350 you guys can post photos on your podcast 119 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:25,960 well we don't post it exactly on the 120 00:06:31,410 --> 00:06:30,280 podcast we post it on our website which 121 00:06:33,690 --> 00:06:31,420 is associated 122 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:33,700 with the podcast and we are going to 123 00:06:42,030 --> 00:06:37,960 post several photos up you know around 124 00:06:45,210 --> 00:06:42,040 this particular broadcast but we are 125 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:45,220 going to keep the photos for use when we 126 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:49,690 post our podcast to YouTube currently 127 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:52,960 our podcast goes out not only on our 128 00:07:00,810 --> 00:06:56,410 websites and the old cake Valentine you 129 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:00,820 fo sho atlantic coast UFOs site but also 130 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:04,690 on itunes but itunes does not have 131 00:07:11,250 --> 00:07:08,110 photos but our website does and a number 132 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:11,260 of of those photos which you sent us 133 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:15,550 we'll be on our website oh good okay 134 00:07:19,110 --> 00:07:17,320 that what that sounds great because i 135 00:07:23,220 --> 00:07:19,120 did send you a photo i'm sure your salt 136 00:07:26,180 --> 00:07:23,230 it's a 1956 of Ocean City New Jersey and 137 00:07:29,310 --> 00:07:26,190 yeah yes that was an amazing photo I 138 00:07:32,190 --> 00:07:29,320 found that in one of our shoebox albums 139 00:07:35,610 --> 00:07:32,200 and and hot [\h__\h] the holy smokes what is 140 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:35,620 this and you know of course no one 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:38,890 really noticed it and I showed it to my 142 00:07:44,250 --> 00:07:42,370 wife and she said you know is it looks 143 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:44,260 like a wave domain I'm saying if you 144 00:07:47,730 --> 00:07:45,730 know I told her well that was a wave 145 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:47,740 would be about a hundred feet high yeah 146 00:07:54,030 --> 00:07:51,130 it was up on the sky yeah I had it 147 00:07:56,970 --> 00:07:54,040 analyzed and quite frankly I had quite a 148 00:07:58,890 --> 00:07:56,980 few people of photo analyst told me that 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:07:58,900 there is a definite object there of 150 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:00,570 course they're not sure what it is but 151 00:08:05,340 --> 00:08:02,890 you know there's the people in a front 152 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:05,350 that's my father of it the toll guy and 153 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:07,450 that's my uncle my mother's probably 154 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:09,130 taking the photo and I'm probably 155 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:12,730 wondering the kids in the surf but what 156 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:16,690 has really got me interested in in the 157 00:08:21,150 --> 00:08:19,210 UFOs was course I was born a 158 00:08:22,890 --> 00:08:21,160 Philadelphia but at the age of seven we 159 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:22,900 moved to a little town called National 160 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:25,450 Park New Jersey now National Park is 161 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:28,000 right on the Delaware River and enjoy it 162 00:08:33,660 --> 00:08:30,970 across from the Philadelphia Naval Yard 163 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:33,670 and of course catty-corner to the 164 00:08:38,130 --> 00:08:36,310 philadelphia international airport so 165 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:38,140 you know I've been kind of looking in 166 00:08:43,530 --> 00:08:40,690 the sky and seeing planes you know all 167 00:08:45,010 --> 00:08:43,540 my life especially the Philippine Naval 168 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:45,020 Yard at one time there 169 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:48,650 had the believe it was the f-102 Delta 170 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:50,930 daggers they had a squadron of them 171 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:52,370 there and they used to fly over our 172 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:54,290 house in formation you know setting up 173 00:09:00,400 --> 00:08:57,890 for approach for landing and I've just 174 00:09:02,410 --> 00:09:00,410 been accustomed to looking in the sky 175 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:02,420 and you know since I've been six or 176 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:04,310 seven years old and you know I've been 177 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:07,010 very interested in the you know the 178 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:09,710 planets and and you know the stars at 179 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:13,040 night and matter of fact we stood on my 180 00:09:19,060 --> 00:09:15,850 front lawn there when Sputnik flew over 181 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:19,070 well i think was october or 57 like me 182 00:09:23,260 --> 00:09:20,570 and my dad and my mom went out front 183 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:23,270 there and stood on the front lawn and 184 00:09:28,660 --> 00:09:26,240 watch Sputnik fly over and that was that 185 00:09:30,580 --> 00:09:28,670 was very fascinating to me so that that 186 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:30,590 kind of that kind of got me interested 187 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:33,650 in in you know looking at the sky and 188 00:09:37,270 --> 00:09:35,510 then you know then you start seeing 189 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:37,280 things from there if you're not if 190 00:09:41,230 --> 00:09:38,570 you're not looking at a sky you're not 191 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:41,240 going to see any UFOs what you know the 192 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:43,010 point I'm trying to make here but that's 193 00:09:50,950 --> 00:09:47,090 how yes are you interesting yes indeed I 194 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:50,960 am a real sky watching myself and and as 195 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:52,880 you know I've reported a couple of 196 00:09:58,060 --> 00:09:54,710 things that I've seen to you including 197 00:10:01,300 --> 00:09:58,070 the huge fireball that I saw backup I 198 00:10:03,790 --> 00:10:01,310 guess it was about four years ago now in 199 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:03,800 a March one of those March fireballs and 200 00:10:10,540 --> 00:10:07,010 that was you know although not generally 201 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:10,550 considered to be a UFO it is an 202 00:10:16,540 --> 00:10:12,890 anomalous kind of an event where they 203 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:16,550 move a lot slower than your typical you 204 00:10:21,430 --> 00:10:18,350 know meteorite like from a little 205 00:10:24,130 --> 00:10:21,440 shooting star these are these are big 206 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:24,140 things and they just an amazing sight 207 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:25,910 but if I hadn't been looking up I 208 00:10:31,570 --> 00:10:29,030 wouldn't have seen it and my companion 209 00:10:33,910 --> 00:10:31,580 who was walking with me she refused to 210 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:33,920 look up I'm screaming and pointing and 211 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:36,050 she's looking at me as though I'd lost 212 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:38,510 my only brain and meanwhile I saw this 213 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:42,320 amazing you know show in the sky and she 214 00:10:46,690 --> 00:10:45,170 missed it all well I want to give you 215 00:10:49,660 --> 00:10:46,700 something to think about this is 216 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:49,670 something that Connor by I came to me 217 00:10:57,430 --> 00:10:53,950 and they thought a few months ago that a 218 00:10:58,690 --> 00:10:57,440 lot of people right off strange lights 219 00:11:00,430 --> 00:10:58,700 in the skies with 220 00:11:02,890 --> 00:11:00,440 sales and everything else is meteors I'm 221 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:02,900 saying to myself one of these are alien 222 00:11:08,140 --> 00:11:06,170 crafts just entering our atmosphere and 223 00:11:12,550 --> 00:11:08,150 you know of course anything entering our 224 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:12,560 atmosphere is going to blow and you know 225 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:14,210 that's just something that I'm thinking 226 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:16,130 about I think possibly a lot of these 227 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:19,310 meteor sightings that we have had over 228 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:22,250 the centuries where possibly alien craft 229 00:11:28,110 --> 00:11:25,310 is entry in our atmosphere yeah i have i 230 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:28,120 have given that some thought and up 231 00:11:34,990 --> 00:11:31,970 particularly in some of the meteors that 232 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:35,000 were going over supposed meteors that 233 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:37,930 were going over ohio and pennsylvania 234 00:11:44,940 --> 00:11:41,330 lobby what and then yeah the huge bowl i 235 00:11:47,590 --> 00:11:44,950 but then it changed direction and 236 00:11:50,430 --> 00:11:47,600 meteors whether they be fireballs the 237 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:50,440 big bigger bowl lives as Kate said or 238 00:11:55,390 --> 00:11:52,730 regular meteors they don't change 239 00:11:59,410 --> 00:11:55,400 direction it's generally speaking they 240 00:12:02,050 --> 00:11:59,420 come right down so um but particularly 241 00:12:05,230 --> 00:12:02,060 of interest to me or what had been known 242 00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:05,240 as the februari fireballs that have been 243 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:07,430 known about for about 20 years now and 244 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:10,130 now they're moving well into March and 245 00:12:17,290 --> 00:12:13,610 it caused me to call up the Old Cape 246 00:12:18,910 --> 00:12:17,300 Valentine you fo sho oh and asked a 247 00:12:22,030 --> 00:12:18,920 couple of the guests who were in 248 00:12:25,090 --> 00:12:22,040 astronomy or whether we could be moving 249 00:12:28,270 --> 00:12:25,100 through a debris field at that point in 250 00:12:30,940 --> 00:12:28,280 our orbit around the Sun and both of 251 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:30,950 these astronomers all seem to agree that 252 00:12:36,220 --> 00:12:33,890 that might be the case but you know that 253 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:36,230 there are things that we see in the sky 254 00:12:41,770 --> 00:12:39,290 and the they may have multiple causes 255 00:12:44,050 --> 00:12:41,780 you know the same we might say one thing 256 00:12:46,510 --> 00:12:44,060 is a meteor and it actually is three 257 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:46,520 different things you know that's your 258 00:12:51,370 --> 00:12:49,370 you're absolutely right so have you had 259 00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:51,380 any good personal sightings I know 260 00:12:56,470 --> 00:12:53,600 you've investigated a number of very 261 00:12:58,750 --> 00:12:56,480 interesting cases and we should mention 262 00:13:01,420 --> 00:12:58,760 that you are a star investigator I 263 00:13:04,270 --> 00:13:01,430 believe in a cite strike force 264 00:13:06,580 --> 00:13:04,280 investigative team area researcher 265 00:13:09,370 --> 00:13:06,590 something of that yes tomb you find that 266 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:09,380 well I am as a matter of fact I am as a 267 00:13:12,220 --> 00:13:10,910 right now at meudon i am chief 268 00:13:14,770 --> 00:13:12,230 investigator 269 00:13:18,220 --> 00:13:14,780 with new fun in New Jersey and they just 270 00:13:22,090 --> 00:13:18,230 promoted me to state director of Vermont 271 00:13:24,010 --> 00:13:22,100 and also Rhode Island wow wow so I'm 272 00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:24,020 working on three states right now but 273 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:27,230 I'm also a member of the star team which 274 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:30,170 means strike team area research and the 275 00:13:34,930 --> 00:13:32,000 i'm a member of that as a matter of fact 276 00:13:37,540 --> 00:13:34,940 they deployed me out to london 277 00:13:40,780 --> 00:13:37,550 connecticut of few years ago there was a 278 00:13:44,410 --> 00:13:40,790 humongous triangle that that was witness 279 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:44,420 flying over New London Connecticut and I 280 00:13:48,610 --> 00:13:46,970 went out there for three days and did a 281 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:48,620 lot of interviews and talk a lot of 282 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:52,330 people now in New London Connecticut 283 00:13:59,710 --> 00:13:57,530 they have the Coast Guard Academy they 284 00:14:01,810 --> 00:13:59,720 also have a general dynamics there are 285 00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:01,820 people who get there no ones who make 286 00:14:05,310 --> 00:14:03,620 two nuclear submarines of course you 287 00:14:08,350 --> 00:14:05,320 know they also have the nuclear 288 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:08,360 submarine pens right there and yes no or 289 00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:13,210 globe for and and they also have a a 290 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:15,920 nuclear plant right there on the coast 291 00:14:20,650 --> 00:14:18,110 they're not far from London London and 292 00:14:23,290 --> 00:14:20,660 of course groeten is we're close to Bay 293 00:14:26,290 --> 00:14:23,300 there and they have a control tower 294 00:14:28,210 --> 00:14:26,300 airport there so make a long story short 295 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:28,220 I talked a lot of people and talk to the 296 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:31,010 police I try to talk to the local 297 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:33,710 newspaper people there and in New London 298 00:14:37,780 --> 00:14:35,600 they don't want anything to do with me I 299 00:14:39,820 --> 00:14:37,790 mean they were very rude and uneven 300 00:14:42,610 --> 00:14:39,830 never even got a chance to actually talk 301 00:14:45,370 --> 00:14:42,620 to the editor but not since I came up 302 00:14:46,690 --> 00:14:45,380 with with nothing basically I really 303 00:14:49,270 --> 00:14:46,700 couldn't find any witnesses to 304 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:49,280 collaborate what what my witness saw but 305 00:14:56,020 --> 00:14:52,730 I wish I would think that you know if 306 00:14:59,890 --> 00:14:56,030 the triangle or if an alien craft was to 307 00:15:01,540 --> 00:14:59,900 want to investigate in an area you know 308 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:01,550 New London and Goten would be the 309 00:15:06,010 --> 00:15:04,010 perfect place because of the nuclear of 310 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:06,020 you know submarines and and everything 311 00:15:09,970 --> 00:15:08,240 else that's going on there but that was 312 00:15:12,130 --> 00:15:09,980 very interesting case that was that 313 00:15:13,930 --> 00:15:12,140 happened a few years ago you know can I 314 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:13,940 think we should mention too that when 315 00:15:19,330 --> 00:15:16,370 you go out to investigate for MUFON it's 316 00:15:21,610 --> 00:15:19,340 not like you just go out there's a long 317 00:15:25,490 --> 00:15:21,620 series of training lessons that are 318 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:25,500 associated with that and a sort of a 319 00:15:30,020 --> 00:15:27,570 protocol as to how you do investigate 320 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:30,030 these cases and more importantly how you 321 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:33,330 report them and record them and at least 322 00:15:39,650 --> 00:15:37,110 it's some even though the gathering of 323 00:15:42,170 --> 00:15:39,660 data on these cases is so sketchy and so 324 00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:42,180 difficult at least it's a start and I 325 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:43,830 think it's very important that you do 326 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:46,110 that so thank you for doing that hard 327 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:49,410 work yes it is yeah I love it it's very 328 00:15:54,770 --> 00:15:52,410 interesting at the time Bigelow you know 329 00:15:57,530 --> 00:15:54,780 he's the Jew trillionaire llega sake 330 00:15:58,820 --> 00:15:57,540 alone indeed yellow aerospace he's the 331 00:16:02,780 --> 00:15:58,830 one who was running the show basically 332 00:16:05,420 --> 00:16:02,790 and he was paying us to do this but a 333 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:05,430 couple years later he decided to drop 334 00:16:10,940 --> 00:16:09,450 out and not not not pay investigators to 335 00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:10,950 go ahead on these sightings but from 336 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:16,760 what I understand any any UFO sightings 337 00:16:22,070 --> 00:16:20,250 from the government or the Air Force or 338 00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:22,080 any of the military's they go directly 339 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:25,980 to bigelow aerospace that seems like a 340 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:31,530 breach of protocol doesn't it why no no 341 00:16:36,410 --> 00:16:34,050 nothing to see here just move along keep 342 00:16:38,690 --> 00:16:36,420 it moving because it's a private company 343 00:16:42,020 --> 00:16:38,700 he's have you ever gotten to meet him by 344 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:42,030 the way has no body ever met him I mean 345 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:44,160 this is George Knapp madam are you sure 346 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:45,930 well I think so yeah well he met 347 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:49,910 somebody yeah who is this mr. Bigelow 348 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:53,040 he's a but he's big into I think he's 349 00:16:59,329 --> 00:16:56,850 trying to find some kind of foothold in 350 00:17:01,880 --> 00:16:59,339 space there for some reason you know 351 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:01,890 gamma you know he's doing this work some 352 00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:04,770 kind of a profit because reason why he 353 00:17:09,770 --> 00:17:07,110 was involved with MUFON is because he 354 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:09,780 wanted to be the first one to be 355 00:17:15,260 --> 00:17:11,970 contacted if we were to find any 356 00:17:17,210 --> 00:17:15,270 evidence of a crashed saucer or you know 357 00:17:19,970 --> 00:17:17,220 apparently he was going to take these 358 00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:19,980 objects and reverse engineering and then 359 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:21,839 you know make money from it just is what 360 00:17:27,620 --> 00:17:25,370 i thought well i think that if he were 361 00:17:30,170 --> 00:17:27,630 see well i had heard two different 362 00:17:33,549 --> 00:17:30,180 stories that he had a son that passed 363 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:33,559 away and he was very interested 364 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:36,710 in like finding some way to contact him 365 00:17:45,639 --> 00:17:42,559 and so therefore things involving a para 366 00:17:47,619 --> 00:17:45,649 para normal kind of interested him but i 367 00:17:50,669 --> 00:17:47,629 would i would think that the way that 368 00:17:54,430 --> 00:17:50,679 nASA has gone towards the 369 00:17:57,700 --> 00:17:54,440 electromagnetic engineering now which I 370 00:18:00,430 --> 00:17:57,710 think and this is a supposition there's 371 00:18:03,549 --> 00:18:00,440 a fellow down south named race race 372 00:18:06,909 --> 00:18:03,559 Sanford who has been taking pictures of 373 00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:06,919 UFOs with regular like old-fashioned 374 00:18:16,830 --> 00:18:09,320 film cameras and slides and stuff and he 375 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:16,840 was visited by a a professor from rpi 376 00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:21,110 named dr. Luke Rumble Reverend Rambo REM 377 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:24,320 something French and that this this guy 378 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:27,610 is the head of space engineering at 379 00:18:33,159 --> 00:18:30,289 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and 380 00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:33,169 it's believed that he visited him to 381 00:18:40,269 --> 00:18:36,799 check to reverse engineer or to see what 382 00:18:43,869 --> 00:18:40,279 might be propelling these UFOs and now 383 00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:43,879 the NASA has come out with this whole 384 00:18:51,090 --> 00:18:47,840 idea that perhaps they can make things 385 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:51,100 go through space through electromagnetic 386 00:18:58,539 --> 00:18:55,490 propulsion which was previously thought 387 00:19:01,480 --> 00:18:58,549 to be not doable but now they're 388 00:19:05,919 --> 00:19:01,490 apparently doing it but let's get back 389 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:05,929 to you and your wife's your wife had a 390 00:19:12,129 --> 00:19:08,830 triangle sighting in in New Jersey uh 391 00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:12,139 yeah well first of all I did have a 392 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:14,240 sighting there and well my first actual 393 00:19:20,499 --> 00:19:16,210 sighting I guess you can say was in 394 00:19:26,289 --> 00:19:20,509 Brooklyn New Jersey in 1974 it was a you 395 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:26,299 know september-october of 74 we were 396 00:19:31,509 --> 00:19:28,850 friend and I we were traveling home from 397 00:19:33,159 --> 00:19:31,519 a we were out of the club and special 398 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:33,169 about three o'clock in ammonium I guess 399 00:19:39,009 --> 00:19:35,090 and we were heading down the route 295 400 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:39,019 their interstate and we came up to a an 401 00:19:44,989 --> 00:19:42,289 overpass and you know we went under the 402 00:19:47,059 --> 00:19:44,999 overpass and as soon as I died you know 403 00:19:51,819 --> 00:19:47,069 passenger so I'm always looking around 404 00:19:57,019 --> 00:19:51,829 and I saw a humongous disc it was a 405 00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:57,029 turquoise color turquoise Wow it was 406 00:20:04,489 --> 00:20:01,679 just just above almost peeking out of 407 00:20:06,879 --> 00:20:04,499 the cloud of the overcast I guess it was 408 00:20:09,979 --> 00:20:06,889 about a 300 foot ceiling that night and 409 00:20:12,529 --> 00:20:09,989 this thing was was humongous and it was 410 00:20:16,159 --> 00:20:12,539 traveling towards the philadelphia 411 00:20:18,949 --> 00:20:16,169 airport hmm was because this area 412 00:20:21,949 --> 00:20:18,959 Brooklyn belmar area that that is within 413 00:20:24,829 --> 00:20:21,959 the five mile TCA terminal control area 414 00:20:26,779 --> 00:20:24,839 filled off international so you know of 415 00:20:30,589 --> 00:20:26,789 course me and my friend I was a drunk or 416 00:20:32,659 --> 00:20:30,599 anything or whatever and I saw up and 417 00:20:35,239 --> 00:20:32,669 then he didn't because you know he was 418 00:20:37,459 --> 00:20:35,249 driving and but we drove around till the 419 00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:37,469 Sun came up looking for this thing in 420 00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:40,559 which we didn't see it anymore but then 421 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:43,039 the next day in the believe it was the 422 00:20:49,099 --> 00:20:45,929 Gloucester times woodberry times at that 423 00:20:51,529 --> 00:20:49,109 point they had an article about the 424 00:20:54,109 --> 00:20:51,539 defra policeman and quite a few 425 00:20:57,769 --> 00:20:54,119 witnesses that did sees something 426 00:20:59,659 --> 00:20:57,779 strange in the sky that night so I've 427 00:21:01,489 --> 00:20:59,669 been trying to get get hold of them 428 00:21:04,609 --> 00:21:01,499 articles we know of course you know 429 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:04,619 these are the newspaper doesn't exist 430 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:07,049 anymore and then you know I'll have to 431 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:09,089 go through some some boxes looking 432 00:21:14,569 --> 00:21:11,609 through some symbols oh maybe the 433 00:21:17,329 --> 00:21:14,579 library or color goes to microfiche 434 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:17,339 sometimes the libraries have your oafish 435 00:21:21,709 --> 00:21:19,529 you can look at it's probably I should 436 00:21:25,479 --> 00:21:21,719 have saved that and it's funny because 437 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:25,489 in 2006 right down the road there in 438 00:21:30,049 --> 00:21:27,689 westville New Jersey which sits right on 439 00:21:33,679 --> 00:21:30,059 the Delaware River and it's it's a you 440 00:21:35,199 --> 00:21:33,689 know close to and within a five mile 441 00:21:40,669 --> 00:21:35,209 area of it fell off international 442 00:21:42,649 --> 00:21:40,679 airport we were at air pump was my 443 00:21:46,759 --> 00:21:42,659 wife's 50th birthday is matter of fact 444 00:21:51,379 --> 00:21:46,769 and we went to a fireworks display and 445 00:21:53,329 --> 00:21:51,389 then westville New Jersey and we you 446 00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:53,339 know just before the the fireworks 447 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,190 started 448 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:57,360 there was another you know overcast 449 00:22:01,460 --> 00:21:59,490 again with the ceiling was probably 450 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:01,470 about 200 foot and you can hear the 451 00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:03,720 planes flying over you going into 452 00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:06,750 Philadelphia International and darned if 453 00:22:10,670 --> 00:22:08,700 something didn't peek peek out of the 454 00:22:14,270 --> 00:22:10,680 clouds there some it looked like I had 455 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:14,280 portholes it was a you know a two second 456 00:22:20,690 --> 00:22:17,100 sighting but this thing peeked out of 457 00:22:22,820 --> 00:22:20,700 the out of the overcast and just you 458 00:22:27,530 --> 00:22:22,830 know slowly moved back into the overcast 459 00:22:28,940 --> 00:22:27,540 and wow it wasn't a plane I have no idea 460 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:28,950 what it was there was a couple witnesses 461 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:30,930 that also saw that that was with me 462 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:32,490 because I was you know with new fun at 463 00:22:37,490 --> 00:22:34,290 the time and I'm you know now I'm fully 464 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:37,500 looking in the sky but yeah that was uh 465 00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:40,890 that was pretty incredible and you know 466 00:22:45,070 --> 00:22:43,020 what I believe a lot of this happens i 467 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:45,080 think these alien craft they like 468 00:22:52,010 --> 00:22:48,570 airports they like military bases there 469 00:22:56,090 --> 00:22:52,020 they like look at the oil nuclear plants 470 00:22:59,360 --> 00:22:56,100 you know airports of course and you know 471 00:23:02,900 --> 00:22:59,370 they're very very interested in lights 472 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:02,910 especially we get a lot of sightings up 473 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:05,490 towards the manhattan area on the New 474 00:23:10,820 --> 00:23:07,730 Jersey side because I think at nighttime 475 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,830 you know any craft any alien craft is 476 00:23:16,010 --> 00:23:12,720 flying around up in the atmosphere you 477 00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:16,020 know the delights of Manhattan with with 478 00:23:21,530 --> 00:23:19,260 of course draw them would make them you 479 00:23:23,150 --> 00:23:21,540 know curious as to what what is all this 480 00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:23,160 light down there on the ground and I 481 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:24,390 think that's why we have a lot of 482 00:23:33,010 --> 00:23:26,610 sightings in that way have you attempted 483 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:36,230 information are you you had now forget 484 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:39,210 it they don't want anything to do with 485 00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:41,130 this turn trying to to get some some 486 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:43,620 radar information from from any of the 487 00:23:48,290 --> 00:23:46,320 airport so they won't even talk to you 488 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:48,300 you know it's as a matter of fact that 489 00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:50,940 time I was up there in New London 490 00:23:55,460 --> 00:23:53,580 Connecticut wrote in the airport at a 491 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:55,470 control tower and I wanted to you know 492 00:24:03,050 --> 00:23:58,890 talk to the people up there to see if 493 00:24:04,940 --> 00:24:03,060 they had any any radars of triangle 494 00:24:07,660 --> 00:24:04,950 flying over on on a certain date and 495 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:07,670 they won't even let me in the gate 496 00:24:13,930 --> 00:24:10,610 well so now it seems as though it's 497 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:13,940 going to be even less what we will all 498 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:16,880 have less ability to find out any 499 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:20,000 information from the airlines or the 500 00:24:26,410 --> 00:24:23,090 control towers simply because of this 501 00:24:29,170 --> 00:24:26,420 recent tragedy the Germanwings tragedy 502 00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:29,180 and it's always been a black mark on a 503 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:31,550 pilot's record to report having seen a 504 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:34,640 UFO and now that they're cracking down 505 00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:39,110 on the psychological testing for pilots 506 00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:42,590 if a pilot reports having seen a UFO it 507 00:24:50,050 --> 00:24:45,440 gives them you know the powers that be 508 00:24:53,470 --> 00:24:50,060 an opportunity to pull him out and so 509 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:53,480 there are you less likely to say they've 510 00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:55,970 already been not that likely to talk 511 00:25:01,000 --> 00:24:58,720 about it because it's a career buster oh 512 00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:01,010 yeah that that's for sure because I when 513 00:25:05,890 --> 00:25:04,190 I was in McGuire Force Base i was there 514 00:25:09,970 --> 00:25:05,900 from nine years a Desert Storm veteran 515 00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:09,980 and then I was basically my my what I 516 00:25:15,940 --> 00:25:12,260 work for the commander I was called seq 517 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,950 see we quality control we basically 518 00:25:19,210 --> 00:25:17,840 evaluated all the sections of the 519 00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,220 squadron just to make shorter they were 520 00:25:23,770 --> 00:25:21,440 doing everything properly you know under 521 00:25:25,810 --> 00:25:23,780 regulations of the Air Force and and I 522 00:25:27,550 --> 00:25:25,820 it would in that position I was able to 523 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:27,560 talk to a lot of people a lot of pilots 524 00:25:31,420 --> 00:25:29,690 and I was always asking policy you know 525 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:31,430 have you guys seen anything crazy up 526 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:34,400 there and they all charge away from that 527 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:36,410 question you know really didn't want 528 00:25:40,210 --> 00:25:38,210 anything to do with it so I you know I 529 00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:40,220 got zero information from the Air Force 530 00:25:43,810 --> 00:25:41,840 pilots and you know like you said 531 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:43,820 they're afraid of being criticized and 532 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:47,390 possibly used losing their rights to to 533 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:49,610 fly actually I think he got a lot of 534 00:25:54,550 --> 00:25:52,250 information if they hadn't seen anything 535 00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:54,560 they would have just simply said no the 536 00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:56,300 fact that they didn't say anything 537 00:26:00,370 --> 00:25:58,970 probably indicates that they did see 538 00:26:03,580 --> 00:26:00,380 something and they just didn't want to 539 00:26:05,470 --> 00:26:03,590 discuss it a graduate so I think that 540 00:26:07,420 --> 00:26:05,480 probably indicates there was a lot of 541 00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:07,430 information there but as far as 542 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:09,920 gathering radar information it was a 543 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:11,450 young man that used to write in 544 00:26:18,820 --> 00:26:13,970 frequently on the old UFO show of 545 00:26:21,460 --> 00:26:18,830 Freeman and he kept trying to develop a 546 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:21,470 protocol for for radar for 547 00:26:27,399 --> 00:26:25,039 regulating these craft and if you look 548 00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:27,409 him up on the old Kate Valentine UFO 549 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:29,870 show website and get in touch with him 550 00:26:34,570 --> 00:26:33,049 he'd be more than interested in trying 551 00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:34,580 to help you get some of this information 552 00:26:40,779 --> 00:26:37,390 he's been working on it for years and 553 00:26:43,090 --> 00:26:40,789 not getting too far well apparently they 554 00:26:46,510 --> 00:26:43,100 did do something out there and not 555 00:26:48,970 --> 00:26:46,520 Stephenville the the Phoenix lights 556 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:48,980 didn't they get some corroboration or 557 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:51,049 wizard Stephenville maybe it was Stevens 558 00:26:58,180 --> 00:26:55,570 Oh stephenville seven Bell yo case yeah 559 00:27:02,560 --> 00:26:58,190 yeah sometimes they do I mean sometimes 560 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:02,570 if if it's a high-profile case and and 561 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:05,000 you know you get a lot of people 562 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:06,890 involved a lot of officials a lot of 563 00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:09,530 higher ups oh you hear sometimes you 564 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:11,840 will get some some ray or information 565 00:27:19,390 --> 00:27:15,289 from from the facilities but you know 566 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:19,400 typically trying to call an airport in 567 00:27:24,399 --> 00:27:21,710 talking to the radar personnel there the 568 00:27:25,899 --> 00:27:24,409 airport about a possible UFO it's a 569 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:25,909 little over a couple days ago they they 570 00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:28,010 they don't even want to talk to you yeah 571 00:27:36,970 --> 00:27:33,830 that's not not good so you had sent some 572 00:27:40,029 --> 00:27:36,980 remarkable pictures from a MUFON Case 573 00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:40,039 that you investigated in allouez 574 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:42,470 Township New Jersey do you want to tell 575 00:27:49,649 --> 00:27:46,370 us a little bit about that ah yes that 576 00:27:55,270 --> 00:27:49,659 was a that was really pretty incredible 577 00:27:57,370 --> 00:27:55,280 I was investigator call and someone an 578 00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:57,380 amateur astronomers a matter of fact he 579 00:28:02,350 --> 00:27:59,570 he lived in the Clayton New Jersey he 580 00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:02,360 was retired he was a businessman retired 581 00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:03,919 what his wife was just him and his wife 582 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:06,950 and you know he was interested in a star 583 00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:08,870 so he decided to move from Clayton New 584 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:11,630 Jersey down to a low a township which is 585 00:28:18,190 --> 00:28:13,520 down in the bridgeton area of southern 586 00:28:21,490 --> 00:28:18,200 New Jersey as very rural lot of horse 587 00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:21,500 farms a lot of cattle and you know he 588 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:23,750 had a small observatory that he built in 589 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:25,330 his backyard and 590 00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:26,890 you know there was no light pollution 591 00:28:31,530 --> 00:28:28,720 you can see you know you can see 592 00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:31,540 everything was just an incredible you 593 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:33,460 know site for looking at the stars 594 00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:36,730 especially for him but I went down there 595 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:39,430 we got the call and I interviewed the 596 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:41,710 witness you know concerning the sighting 597 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:44,500 and and he provided a drawing of the 598 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:46,480 flying triangle that passed over his uh 599 00:28:55,530 --> 00:28:51,730 his observatory on octobre 13 2006 and 600 00:28:57,390 --> 00:28:55,540 around 1245 a.m. he said that I was 601 00:28:59,760 --> 00:28:57,400 confronted with an enormous object 602 00:29:02,520 --> 00:28:59,770 clearly defined by ambient lights a 603 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:02,530 photo was crashing but as it approached 604 00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:05,710 my observatory began to rise this thing 605 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:07,960 was barely moving forward and I could I 606 00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:09,910 could not have been more than 200 feet 607 00:29:15,540 --> 00:29:13,270 above me probably less I can make out 608 00:29:19,650 --> 00:29:15,550 details of rivets and bolts in its 609 00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:19,660 construction as the object as the object 610 00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:22,870 rounded nose began to approach me I was 611 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:25,900 really taken back by it slightly lit 612 00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:27,730 windows it was shocking to see a 613 00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:31,270 humanoid form moving as it was pacing 614 00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:33,870 back and forth in a large port though 615 00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:38,230 about 88 feet square as it got closer to 616 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:40,180 figure moved away from the window the 617 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:41,830 figure is shown in the upper right-hand 618 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:46,090 side of the drawing I thought it was I I 619 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:47,890 thought there was no one at the controls 620 00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:50,110 I got the impression was getting ready 621 00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,710 to hover as its open hats moved directly 622 00:29:57,660 --> 00:29:55,840 over me and I was entertaining some 623 00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:57,670 negative thoughts regarding my own sake 624 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:01,600 hey and good enough and now what we 625 00:30:06,780 --> 00:30:04,510 thought what what this open hatch it he 626 00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:06,790 said he described it is like a big black 627 00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:10,560 dumpster was hanging from under this 628 00:30:15,150 --> 00:30:13,480 humongous triangle and you know of 629 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:15,160 course the only conclusion that did we 630 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:18,730 came to was you know we felt that this 631 00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:20,770 thing was possibly looking for cattle or 632 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:24,310 horses or something out there and let me 633 00:30:28,590 --> 00:30:26,710 read a little bit further here was at 634 00:30:31,410 --> 00:30:28,600 least two stories high with two large 635 00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:31,420 windows port and starboard it has a 636 00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:34,260 rounded nose there were 30 tag light 637 00:30:39,060 --> 00:30:37,960 pipe structures two large turbo type 638 00:30:40,769 --> 00:30:39,070 structures large and 639 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:40,779 diameter and shorter and lengthen those 640 00:30:46,529 --> 00:30:43,450 on commercial aircrafts a flaps are 641 00:30:49,529 --> 00:30:46,539 stabilizer type structures s a very 642 00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:49,539 large square black container type 643 00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:51,940 structure protruding off-center from its 644 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:56,470 belly an open hatch and and other bulky 645 00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:58,690 geometric shapes that I saw but I can I 646 00:31:03,779 --> 00:31:01,600 can only remember they were thick huge 647 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:03,789 bulky with an incredible amount of drag 648 00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:07,330 that it would not be wouldn't be 649 00:31:12,659 --> 00:31:08,919 possible that there would be too much 650 00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:12,669 drag their 22 on this craft to fly to 651 00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:15,220 remain almost immediately I saw they say 652 00:31:20,850 --> 00:31:17,740 surge of static electricity that tickled 653 00:31:23,639 --> 00:31:20,860 my face and hair on my arms and head and 654 00:31:26,779 --> 00:31:23,649 its tail section was about to pass over 655 00:31:29,399 --> 00:31:26,789 me I quickly swung the dome and hurt a 656 00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:29,409 low-pitched roar with the sound of 657 00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:32,279 baking sizzling and a frying pan 658 00:31:37,950 --> 00:31:35,470 suddenly it was gone no sound and i did 659 00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:37,960 a 360-degree search but it's selling 660 00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:41,830 there was nothing there now the crazy 661 00:31:49,289 --> 00:31:46,000 part about about this was a of course i 662 00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:49,299 had to go over his house and you know he 663 00:31:55,919 --> 00:31:52,870 was afraid to go outside hey I would be 664 00:31:59,009 --> 00:31:55,929 I visited him I went over fear four 665 00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:59,019 times and finally you know we talked I 666 00:32:03,899 --> 00:32:02,080 calm them down and and he finally got 667 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:03,909 the nerve to go out to his Observatory 668 00:32:10,139 --> 00:32:07,570 again the crazy part is weak he has 669 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:10,149 another incredible sighting I sent you 670 00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:13,809 some photos of it have done to two 671 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:17,950 shapes like two long tube-like shapes 672 00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:21,610 that were lit up right you know what you 673 00:32:26,249 --> 00:32:24,039 speak enough yeah they're the ones now 674 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:26,259 let me let me tell you about this one 675 00:32:32,779 --> 00:32:29,970 here now they were stationary I was at a 676 00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:32,789 convention in Baltimore I had a 677 00:32:36,990 --> 00:32:35,350 presentation of UFO photos with you know 678 00:32:40,350 --> 00:32:37,000 for my website their world you also 679 00:32:42,509 --> 00:32:40,360 photos org I did a photo presentation 680 00:32:44,249 --> 00:32:42,519 and of course i had the bunker say well 681 00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:44,259 you know this was an airplane and 682 00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:47,500 because of the and the camera settings 683 00:32:52,139 --> 00:32:49,629 you know this is just light from an 684 00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:52,149 airplane is flying by I don't know for 685 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:52,840 the many picture 686 00:32:57,659 --> 00:32:54,730 I have you know this this object was 687 00:33:01,169 --> 00:32:57,669 stationary it was rotating on its axis 688 00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:01,179 and we got we got a few pictures well he 689 00:33:07,230 --> 00:33:04,240 got a few pictures of this triangle 690 00:33:09,210 --> 00:33:07,240 rotating on its axis and quite frankly I 691 00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:09,220 think they're the most spectacular 692 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:12,840 nighttime photos I've ever seen Wow so 693 00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:16,690 now the information about this was a 924 694 00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:21,940 07 you know less than a year later the 695 00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:23,470 witness said that on the night of 696 00:33:29,610 --> 00:33:26,799 September 24 2007 was brightly lit due 697 00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:29,620 to a full moon it was approximately 698 00:33:34,289 --> 00:33:32,080 twelve-thirty I'm sorry 1130pm and I was 699 00:33:36,930 --> 00:33:34,299 outside with a digital camera nearby I 700 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:36,940 had nothing special in mind but due to 701 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:38,529 the bizarre experience i had last 702 00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:41,049 october two thousand six this experience 703 00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:43,929 i'd been recorded on the muon website i 704 00:33:49,470 --> 00:33:45,760 always keep the camera on hand when i'm 705 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,480 out at night see what this guy he takes 706 00:33:53,730 --> 00:33:51,760 a lot of photos of the planets in a mood 707 00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:53,740 apparently he he didn't really have 708 00:33:58,380 --> 00:33:56,740 anything a small that he could take 709 00:34:00,269 --> 00:33:58,390 pictures he got this evening would never 710 00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:00,279 expect anything to fly right over his 711 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:02,049 observatory evolving in quality 712 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:05,260 equipment he had he was you know taking 713 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:07,840 photos of the the universe and 714 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:09,280 everything else apparently he had a lot 715 00:34:15,629 --> 00:34:12,310 of high-tech equipment but they didn't 716 00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:15,639 have a car to take close-ups of you know 717 00:34:20,490 --> 00:34:17,230 flying saucers coming over his house 718 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:20,500 there okay now he has a camera in hand 719 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:24,159 and he said a brake light again caught 720 00:34:28,379 --> 00:34:26,169 my eye and i observed this rectangular 721 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:28,389 shape light begins to rise slowly behind 722 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:30,970 a tree line in the southern in the South 723 00:34:36,540 --> 00:34:34,000 approximately one mile away this object 724 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:36,550 appeared to hover for about 20 seconds 725 00:34:41,849 --> 00:34:38,649 and then began to travel west at a very 726 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:41,859 slow speed as it began moving west to 727 00:34:46,619 --> 00:34:44,320 seem to pivot on both the vertical and 728 00:34:50,070 --> 00:34:46,629 horizontal axis revealing more detail 729 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:50,080 until it disappeared behind a tree I 730 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:52,450 cutter this object with my digital and 731 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:54,490 my pictures came out surprisingly well I 732 00:35:00,599 --> 00:34:57,970 use a canon 20d a which i use for 733 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:00,609 astrophotography i have transverse these 734 00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:02,970 images to a disc 735 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:07,440 and my know it was and this guy here 736 00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:09,810 this witness he became a MUFON 737 00:35:14,839 --> 00:35:11,820 investigator because of this incident I 738 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:14,849 know yeah this kind of sparked is 739 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:16,890 interesting and that he did become an 740 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:19,410 investigator but he only investigated a 741 00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:21,570 few cases and and him and his wife they 742 00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:24,660 i believe they moved to Delaware 743 00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:28,740 Maryland so Ken Ken are you aware i 744 00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:31,380 looked at those photographs and we will 745 00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:34,230 display that photo at least one of those 746 00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:37,020 photographs on our website so our 747 00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:41,220 listeners can see it but um I was struck 748 00:35:47,570 --> 00:35:44,760 by the similarity of that double 749 00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:47,580 tube-like structure that was in the 750 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:52,140 photograph so um sightings of dual 751 00:35:58,070 --> 00:35:54,810 sightings that happened oh I would say 752 00:36:02,960 --> 00:35:58,080 about two maybe three years ago and were 753 00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:02,970 reported concurrently first down in up 754 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:06,900 tennessee or kentucky by also an amateur 755 00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:09,810 astronomer and then about a week later 756 00:36:17,690 --> 00:36:15,150 it was reported by a gentleman in not 757 00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:17,700 all the way upstate but like a nearby 758 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:23,160 upstate New York who ran a small airport 759 00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:25,650 for personal planes you know for private 760 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:29,430 pilot's and in both of these cases there 761 00:36:37,130 --> 00:36:33,630 was the same the same type of structure 762 00:36:40,810 --> 00:36:37,140 and I believe that these two cases were 763 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:40,820 reported by Linda Moulton Howe okay and 764 00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:43,890 but the pictures that these people came 765 00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:47,430 up with and the description is very much 766 00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:50,070 like the picture of your alloway 767 00:36:54,349 --> 00:36:52,800 township not the initial one because 768 00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:54,359 there is no picture but the second one 769 00:37:00,200 --> 00:36:57,119 with the two tube-like structures so I 770 00:37:03,530 --> 00:37:00,210 was struck by this the similarity of 771 00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:03,540 those things you know as a matter of 772 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:06,750 fact I I do have I think there's i'm a 773 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:09,330 i'm sure i have the photos there or as a 774 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:11,130 matter of fact i used a couple of photos 775 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:13,970 in my presentation in baltimore but 776 00:37:20,420 --> 00:37:16,650 y'all have some pretty have 777 00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:20,430 few photos that are very almost exact as 778 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:23,640 to what i have here for Natalie Township 779 00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:26,730 and I forget the locations but I can if 780 00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,260 you need them i can look them up for you 781 00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:30,960 but basically these photos are from 782 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:34,220 people like himself oh you know astro of 783 00:37:42,170 --> 00:37:38,490 photographers of who are capturing these 784 00:37:44,089 --> 00:37:42,180 things in the higher altitude of you 785 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:44,099 know of our earth here you know they're 786 00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:46,890 probably pretty high up 50 60 70 80 787 00:37:52,789 --> 00:37:49,680 thousand miles up and early on of 788 00:37:56,809 --> 00:37:52,799 objects that these guys are or capturing 789 00:37:59,450 --> 00:37:56,819 on with their equipment so yeah that was 790 00:38:01,309 --> 00:37:59,460 that was my i have many cases very many 791 00:38:05,089 --> 00:38:01,319 interesting cases but i think this is 792 00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:05,099 the one that that i really like the best 793 00:38:11,539 --> 00:38:09,420 of this one here now now this this area 794 00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:11,549 here as you can see there's high power 795 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:15,119 lines in the photo and sell a nuclear 796 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:18,390 plant is only 13 miles away and though 797 00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:20,250 rare force bases across the bay there 798 00:38:25,789 --> 00:38:22,230 that six about that's it's about 26 799 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,799 miles away which is you know very a very 800 00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:27,900 short distance but i think that these 801 00:38:32,839 --> 00:38:30,990 these things are interested in the 802 00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:32,849 nuclear plants i'm not there after 803 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:35,190 drawing energy off the hot power lines 804 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,710 but in this case like i said i think 805 00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:39,680 they were looking for cattle or horses 806 00:38:47,329 --> 00:38:43,680 that were in the area just abduct them 807 00:38:49,490 --> 00:38:47,339 or to experiment it's just take them 808 00:38:52,670 --> 00:38:49,500 away i guess is the only thing I that's 809 00:38:55,789 --> 00:38:52,680 the only reason why we thought that 810 00:38:58,309 --> 00:38:55,799 these things were flying over so have 811 00:39:00,829 --> 00:38:58,319 you ever been to the observatory at the 812 00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:00,839 Jenny jump out in I guess it's in Warren 813 00:39:05,299 --> 00:39:03,240 County not I don't think that's terribly 814 00:39:07,010 --> 00:39:05,309 far away from you I do don't know where 815 00:39:10,029 --> 00:39:07,020 you are exactly located but I know 816 00:39:12,799 --> 00:39:10,039 you're at you know in the Pennsylvania 817 00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,809 border region there have you ever been 818 00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:14,160 up there to look through those 819 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,390 telescopes the photography astronomers 820 00:39:24,410 --> 00:39:21,119 set up these huge telescopes and Jenny 821 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,420 jump I know I would love to see we're 822 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:26,160 down here and served south jersey I'm 823 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:28,010 down there violin I'm 824 00:39:33,490 --> 00:39:31,250 very very soldier okay you know these 825 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:33,500 are as a matter of fact we do have some 826 00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:36,430 observatories I believe it Stockton 827 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:38,990 Stockton there was a state college I 828 00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:40,610 think just transferred over to a 829 00:39:45,790 --> 00:39:42,830 Stockton University i'm pretty sure they 830 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:45,800 have an observatory right there as a 831 00:39:50,290 --> 00:39:47,810 matter of fact I've seen it I've seen it 832 00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:50,300 it's it's out on the out in a field and 833 00:39:54,820 --> 00:39:53,180 i wish i had a time I better just 834 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:54,830 doesn't seem to me enough hours in the 835 00:40:02,800 --> 00:39:58,490 day I wish I had the time to to go there 836 00:40:05,950 --> 00:40:02,810 and to look through a very sophisticated 837 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:05,960 type of telescope to indeed it looks 838 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:08,330 like I'd be more missing but I would 839 00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:10,010 probably sit there and watch the moon 840 00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,500 all day is what I as a matter of fact I 841 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:14,960 have people that are constantly send me 842 00:40:22,810 --> 00:40:19,130 photos of objects that are just flying 843 00:40:24,370 --> 00:40:22,820 across the moon wow so what what is what 844 00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:24,380 do you think the reaction of the crowd 845 00:40:28,930 --> 00:40:26,600 would be lets say you had 10 or 15 846 00:40:32,290 --> 00:40:28,940 amateur astronomers in a nice setup in a 847 00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:32,300 in an outdoor like Jenny jump and a 848 00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:34,880 triangular craft one of the triangles 849 00:40:40,060 --> 00:40:37,820 flew overhead do you think that they 850 00:40:42,850 --> 00:40:40,070 would try to discount it you know like 851 00:40:44,170 --> 00:40:42,860 don't believe my lying eyes type of 852 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:44,180 reaction do you think they'd actually 853 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:46,010 try to investigate it what do you think 854 00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:49,690 that the human reaction to that would be 855 00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:54,830 well that's such a good question uh if 856 00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:56,750 they're scientists they probably won't 857 00:41:02,370 --> 00:40:59,090 believe it yeah i mean i'll say it so 858 00:41:05,740 --> 00:41:02,380 you know what a military craft 859 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:05,750 experimental craft well yeah everyone 860 00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:07,850 about what a thousand excuses zoom why 861 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:10,760 you know a good big if they can't touch 862 00:41:16,570 --> 00:41:13,370 it see it feel it smell it or taste it 863 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:16,580 it doesn't exist well but i think most 864 00:41:23,590 --> 00:41:21,170 people would probably be either 865 00:41:25,390 --> 00:41:23,600 convinced or you know well especially 866 00:41:29,470 --> 00:41:25,400 with the triangles these days of course 867 00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:29,480 some of the planes that we're developing 868 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:32,470 like the b-2 bomber and all that the 869 00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:35,450 f-117 they all have a triangular shape 870 00:41:40,890 --> 00:41:37,670 and i'm sure there are some experimental 871 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:40,900 planes out there that look 872 00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:43,570 that have that triangular form but but 873 00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:46,510 you can't you can't write off all these 874 00:41:51,090 --> 00:41:48,580 sightings to experimental aircraft with 875 00:41:53,010 --> 00:41:51,100 the military that's for sure right let's 876 00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:53,020 count these triangles have been around 877 00:41:57,650 --> 00:41:55,000 for for hundreds if not thousands of 878 00:42:00,180 --> 00:41:57,660 years and we're still discovering 879 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:00,190 sightings that have happened you know 880 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:02,290 hundreds of years ago that that people 881 00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:05,410 are either finally found in journals or 882 00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:08,620 diaries and things like that so you know 883 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:10,660 I think these triangles could could 884 00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:13,210 either be alien or some of them could be 885 00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:17,200 a you know experimental aircraft can my 886 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:20,080 experience with the guys up at the Jenny 887 00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:23,050 jump there are a lot of them are like 888 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:26,080 college professors in different 889 00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:30,690 scientific pursuits pursuits yes and 890 00:42:38,340 --> 00:42:34,840 some of them are from the college in 891 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:38,350 Newark the engineering college in NJIT 892 00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:42,730 and my after speaking to a number of 893 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:44,560 them sort of putting it to them I think 894 00:42:52,340 --> 00:42:48,610 that it's like one out of three of them 895 00:42:55,770 --> 00:42:52,350 sort of gives the idea of a UFO 896 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:55,780 possibility some credence and the you 897 00:43:00,960 --> 00:42:57,610 know the other two out of three i would 898 00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:00,970 say kind of poo poos it and like you 899 00:43:09,570 --> 00:43:05,710 said that people are wanting to prove 900 00:43:12,210 --> 00:43:09,580 the materialist mechanistic universe 901 00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:12,220 theory because that's that's what they 902 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:15,060 grew up studying and believing and 903 00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:21,970 perhaps they don't have enough view to 904 00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:25,510 see the possibilities that things can 905 00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:27,790 get here from other places through 906 00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:32,110 wormholes etc sure but now I've said 907 00:43:38,340 --> 00:43:35,590 before and I'll say it again it did I I 908 00:43:39,690 --> 00:43:38,350 don't think anyone even myself even 909 00:43:41,610 --> 00:43:39,700 yourself you don't have it you don't 910 00:43:44,070 --> 00:43:41,620 have any idea how big these universes 911 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:44,080 and you know I'll go on record and say 912 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:45,970 you know I feel there's there's 913 00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:48,010 trillions upon trillions of earth-like 914 00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:49,630 planets out there floating around in 915 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:52,630 space yes it's like a in that that's how 916 00:43:55,860 --> 00:43:54,370 big the inter vs you know and then 917 00:43:57,930 --> 00:43:55,870 the scientists talk about you know with 918 00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:57,940 you well we think we found the internet' 919 00:44:00,810 --> 00:43:59,680 inter vs you like what should be and you 920 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:00,820 know what what's on the other words 921 00:44:05,010 --> 00:44:03,520 there a wall is there a starbucks run on 922 00:44:08,490 --> 00:44:05,020 the other side of this wall you know 923 00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:08,500 it's just it's almost my mind and uh 924 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:11,830 well I Scott said that that is so the 925 00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:14,290 space-time folds in on itself and so it 926 00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:18,400 does have a finite boundary but I I have 927 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:20,440 to agree with you like okay so space 928 00:44:24,930 --> 00:44:22,510 ends here but what's behind it well more 929 00:44:27,150 --> 00:44:24,940 space they say it's curved but I don't 930 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:27,160 think they really know or the saddle 931 00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:29,410 shaped are always at any idea I don't 932 00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:35,020 know I a torus shape vor us I don't I 933 00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:37,390 don't quite I don't quite get it but it 934 00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:39,790 keeps changing as you've said can I do 935 00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:42,910 think though that they're trying to you 936 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:45,430 know slowly but surely first they 937 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:48,370 introduced planets and then exoplanets 938 00:44:55,410 --> 00:44:52,450 and then rocky planets and it may be 939 00:44:57,930 --> 00:44:55,420 planets with rock and an atmosphere and 940 00:44:59,850 --> 00:44:57,940 oh oh and look there's water all over 941 00:45:02,280 --> 00:44:59,860 the place but recently is a great 942 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:02,290 article on the blood falls in Antarctica 943 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:05,410 and there are these waterfalls that are 944 00:45:09,380 --> 00:45:07,210 bright red and they feel like it's due 945 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:09,390 to iron oxide but it's a pretty eerie 946 00:45:17,070 --> 00:45:13,750 sight and underneath it now in this rust 947 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:17,080 water at minus god only knows what they 948 00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:19,810 found all sorts of swarming bacteria and 949 00:45:25,740 --> 00:45:22,750 then multi cellular activity as well and 950 00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:25,750 so the comment was why if life can live 951 00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:28,870 here perhaps it can live elsewhere i 952 00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:31,840 call it wow really yeah you think you 953 00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,340 know it's so interesting i got 954 00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:35,440 interested in exobiology when it was 955 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:37,750 considered paranormal maybe several 956 00:45:44,780 --> 00:45:40,810 decades ago and it is so annoying to me 957 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:44,790 that it was so left at then and it's so 958 00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:48,250 accepted now and I think eventually this 959 00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:51,310 whole idea of alien crafts visiting here 960 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:54,160 will also become not laughable at some 961 00:46:00,960 --> 00:45:57,570 point hopefully in our lifetime again um 962 00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:00,970 before the time gets away from us there 963 00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:02,950 are two other things that I wanted to 964 00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:06,640 talk to you about you have some opinions 965 00:46:10,859 --> 00:46:07,900 on disclosure 966 00:46:12,329 --> 00:46:10,869 and it's possible negative effects do 967 00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:12,339 you want to speak to that for a couple 968 00:46:18,059 --> 00:46:15,670 of moments uh yeah now everybody is 969 00:46:19,859 --> 00:46:18,069 screaming for disclosure and quite 970 00:46:24,269 --> 00:46:19,869 frankly I don't think any president 971 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:24,279 would would want to come on TV and you 972 00:46:28,799 --> 00:46:26,890 know say to I can imagine Obama coming 973 00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,809 on television and saying hey guess what 974 00:46:32,789 --> 00:46:30,640 folks you know we're where you have 975 00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:32,799 aliens among us I don't think any I 976 00:46:36,539 --> 00:46:34,630 don't think any president or anyone 977 00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:36,549 would want to touch that with a 50-foot 978 00:46:44,190 --> 00:46:40,720 pole quite frankly I think if disclosure 979 00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:44,200 does happen I think it's going i think 980 00:46:53,390 --> 00:46:47,740 the stock markets are crash I think of 981 00:46:55,950 --> 00:46:53,400 religions you know we'll be in turmoil I 982 00:46:59,880 --> 00:46:55,960 think we'll be jumping out of windows I 983 00:47:02,309 --> 00:46:59,890 just think that people can handle it now 984 00:47:07,470 --> 00:47:02,319 a lot of people like ourselves you know 985 00:47:10,829 --> 00:47:07,480 we have the the we feel that there are a 986 00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:10,839 lot of people out there that believe in 987 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:13,839 UFOs and and you know I don't know if 988 00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:16,690 you realize it or not but but this UFO 989 00:47:22,349 --> 00:47:19,150 community we're very little community I 990 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:22,359 mean we r we r which is 330 million 991 00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:24,970 people in the United States and you know 992 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:27,190 even if a million people believe in UFOs 993 00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,490 that's still a pretty small percentage 994 00:47:34,380 --> 00:47:32,559 of you know a lot of people just 995 00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,390 dismissed this stuff they don't even 996 00:47:38,579 --> 00:47:35,920 want to hear about it they don't they 997 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:38,589 don't watch the shows on TV you know 998 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:40,690 they think it's silly there they you 999 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:42,250 know they bury their head in the sand 1000 00:47:50,190 --> 00:47:45,130 and you know even though we think that 1001 00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:50,200 you know the statistics say that's three 1002 00:47:54,809 --> 00:47:52,390 out of four people believe in alien life 1003 00:47:56,819 --> 00:47:54,819 in UFOs I'm saying myself we're how are 1004 00:47:58,829 --> 00:47:56,829 they getting these figures from because 1005 00:48:00,779 --> 00:47:58,839 uh you know I think that they're 1006 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:00,789 speaking more about the people who think 1007 00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:03,250 it's possible versus you're speaking 1008 00:48:07,309 --> 00:48:04,569 about the people who are actively 1009 00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:07,319 interested would you agree with that uh 1010 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:12,640 uh well I think that's uh I think there 1011 00:48:17,279 --> 00:48:14,410 are a lot of people out there who just 1012 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:17,289 aren't interested I'd like I said I feel 1013 00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:18,730 that the ninety-five percent of the 1014 00:48:22,650 --> 00:48:21,100 population just just their day 1015 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:22,660 they're not interested in you want to 1016 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:25,570 think about it scary oh it's kind of a 1017 00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,540 lot of people especially Fisher comes on 1018 00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:30,160 meanors there's ninety-five percent of 1019 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:32,800 our population is going to be shocked 1020 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:35,290 and you know I don't think they'd be 1021 00:48:42,090 --> 00:48:38,650 able to handle news like that well I'm 1022 00:48:45,810 --> 00:48:42,100 going to get into our last topic sort of 1023 00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:45,820 around through the back door because you 1024 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:47,950 know you do a lot of looking at photos 1025 00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:51,490 and from from the moon and for Mars and 1026 00:48:56,580 --> 00:48:53,800 I have several questions for you 1027 00:49:00,270 --> 00:48:56,590 regarding that back a couple of years 1028 00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:00,280 ago on my blog site I did an article 1029 00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:05,830 about the pictures that came from Mars 1030 00:49:19,110 --> 00:49:16,530 fossil a type appearing things that were 1031 00:49:21,260 --> 00:49:19,120 picked up by the rover and then the 1032 00:49:23,820 --> 00:49:21,270 rover they were told to destroy them 1033 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:23,830 over like to thank you aren't they they 1034 00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:25,690 look like tubes no these look more 1035 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:29,200 almost like um like the trial of bites 1036 00:49:33,930 --> 00:49:31,330 they had a sort of a similar thing to 1037 00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:33,940 trial abides in if you know if you want 1038 00:49:40,860 --> 00:49:36,880 you could look at my website and you'll 1039 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:40,870 see the crinoids CRI and oids and people 1040 00:49:45,390 --> 00:49:42,970 have said that these pictures there are 1041 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:45,400 tubes also yeah you know on Mars but 1042 00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:47,530 what I'm speaking to specifically is 1043 00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:51,180 these things that look exactly like a 1044 00:50:00,420 --> 00:49:55,350 things on earth that are prehistoric 1045 00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:00,430 advances and then somebody and and the 1046 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:03,100 rover team apparently decided that they 1047 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:05,770 ought to be pulverized to look at them 1048 00:50:13,050 --> 00:50:10,690 and thereby destroyed it so that is one 1049 00:50:17,310 --> 00:50:13,060 thing that is bringing me into talking 1050 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:17,320 about your Mars and moon discoveries and 1051 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:21,370 all the photos that you have up on your 1052 00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:27,730 world UFO or Georg I you have to repeat 1053 00:50:30,930 --> 00:50:29,470 that for the for the listeners go ahead 1054 00:50:32,430 --> 00:50:30,940 repeat that right away because people 1055 00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,440 are going to want to look at that and 1056 00:50:37,390 --> 00:50:34,640 this is 154 1057 00:50:40,299 --> 00:50:37,400 largest world's largest website for UFO 1058 00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:40,309 photos I got over 8,000 photos and it's 1059 00:50:48,579 --> 00:50:44,720 called the world UFO photos org great 1060 00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:48,589 great so I'm on my news website is world 1061 00:50:54,910 --> 00:50:51,920 UFO photos and news or guy got over a 1062 00:50:57,579 --> 00:50:54,920 thousand pretty good articles on there 1063 00:51:01,359 --> 00:50:57,589 yes you do yes you do have some very 1064 00:51:03,579 --> 00:51:01,369 excellent articles there so um tell us a 1065 00:51:07,299 --> 00:51:03,589 little bit just briefly about the kinds 1066 00:51:08,740 --> 00:51:07,309 of things that you have the kinds of 1067 00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,750 things that you have found in the 1068 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:11,119 pictures first of the Moon and then of 1069 00:51:17,259 --> 00:51:14,690 Mars well with the with the note and I 1070 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:17,269 have found as a matter of fact there is 1071 00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:20,690 a website I'd also sent that to you i 1072 00:51:24,789 --> 00:51:23,359 sent you the links where i go to so you 1073 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:24,799 know if people are wondering where i'm 1074 00:51:28,930 --> 00:51:26,690 getting all this information from you 1075 00:51:31,299 --> 00:51:28,940 know i'm giving you the links and you 1076 00:51:33,130 --> 00:51:31,309 can go find it yourself basically yes 1077 00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:33,140 you know I have nothing to hide i would 1078 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:36,160 i find i feel is real and i found 1079 00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:38,930 there's one will and photo there sits 1080 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:42,710 for photo number five I have found this 1081 00:51:49,950 --> 00:51:44,569 is near to rittenhouse crater i 1082 00:51:54,609 --> 00:51:49,960 discovered this on 9 24 12 7 30 p.m. 1083 00:51:57,309 --> 00:51:54,619 there's a lot of exes always ones some 1084 00:51:59,980 --> 00:51:57,319 of these photos now i do agree that some 1085 00:52:04,059 --> 00:51:59,990 of these X's could be and i know that 1086 00:52:07,809 --> 00:52:04,069 some of them are you know x is that that 1087 00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:07,819 the the people from from Nassib probably 1088 00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:11,599 you know draw on these photos in order 1089 00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:15,730 to help them crop photos or you know 1090 00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:18,319 they put these in the line just to 1091 00:52:25,779 --> 00:52:21,680 section off a certain section of the 1092 00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:25,789 moon but a lot of these X's are on the 1093 00:52:34,299 --> 00:52:28,730 moon I mean these are 3 DX is there 1094 00:52:37,509 --> 00:52:34,309 they're very large and these X's are put 1095 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:37,519 in in locations that I feel for some 1096 00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:40,490 reason are very important to NASA haha 1097 00:52:46,509 --> 00:52:43,670 and I have found tons of them out there 1098 00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,519 and as a matter of fact on this one next 1099 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:48,240 year is right in the Brayton basic 1100 00:52:55,610 --> 00:52:51,330 almost the center of a crater that's 1101 00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,620 that was photo 5 now i have now another 1102 00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:57,480 one that did very interesting this is 1103 00:53:03,890 --> 00:53:00,800 near to z menu crater discovered this on 1104 00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:03,900 so time of fourteen nineteen twelve it 1105 00:53:09,790 --> 00:53:07,470 that's photo number for it it's the 1106 00:53:14,330 --> 00:53:09,800 strangest things that I've ever seen I 1107 00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:14,340 found this on the the moon and as a 1108 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:16,200 matter of fact the website that I go to 1109 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:19,290 to find these things is I go to the 1110 00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:24,210 Gazette of planetary nomenclature I have 1111 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:27,380 the website there it's a basically a 1112 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:32,610 planetary names dot wrw USGS you know 1113 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:34,170 like I said I send this information to 1114 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:35,610 you there now we'll put that on the 1115 00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:38,010 website actually what they've done is 1116 00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:39,660 they've taken a known and they've cut it 1117 00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,020 up into sections you know different pies 1118 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:44,640 and there's a hundred forty-one sections 1119 00:53:48,620 --> 00:53:46,890 there and you know it's but you're just 1120 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:48,630 going to go into a section you want to 1121 00:53:54,350 --> 00:53:50,250 click on it and you're just going to 1122 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:54,360 enlarge you know the the the photos of 1123 00:54:00,670 --> 00:53:57,690 the moon and you'd be shocked as to what 1124 00:54:03,470 --> 00:54:00,680 the what you come across sometimes so 1125 00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:03,480 okay and the photograph I found most 1126 00:54:08,290 --> 00:54:05,310 interesting was the one that you called 1127 00:54:11,090 --> 00:54:08,300 the bridge is is there any sort of a 1128 00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:11,100 nearby structure which gives you how an 1129 00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:13,590 idea of how big that structure would be 1130 00:54:20,020 --> 00:54:16,380 oh that was a that was an incredible but 1131 00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:20,030 that's definitely not a natural thing a 1132 00:54:25,970 --> 00:54:23,880 helping is it wait let me take a look at 1133 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:25,980 that realer career real quick i have it 1134 00:54:34,490 --> 00:54:32,130 on a structure it's really canal they do 1135 00:54:37,490 --> 00:54:34,500 have the as a matter of fact they do 1136 00:54:40,070 --> 00:54:37,500 have yeah I have it right here moon 1137 00:54:43,790 --> 00:54:40,080 bridge structure near these now as you 1138 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:43,800 can see i try to to put a reference in 1139 00:54:48,140 --> 00:54:45,210 there that's what I'm trying to put in 1140 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:48,150 there some plus this be I guess is what 1141 00:54:54,220 --> 00:54:50,490 is called crater if i pronounce that 1142 00:54:57,140 --> 00:54:54,230 correctly i discovered this on 9 27 12 1143 00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:57,150 it looks like you know i mean this is 1144 00:55:00,800 --> 00:54:58,890 not a splice because you can s'matter 1145 00:55:01,790 --> 00:55:00,810 fact right on right above that you can 1146 00:55:06,050 --> 00:55:01,800 see where we r 1147 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:06,060 to try to display something on it on the 1148 00:55:12,380 --> 00:55:10,050 the right side of the photo maybe eric 1149 00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,390 zarnitz place out buildings or who knows 1150 00:55:18,410 --> 00:55:14,160 what they're calling this place happen 1151 00:55:19,850 --> 00:55:18,420 best photo right there is yeah it's kind 1152 00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:19,860 of really kind of hard to say what that 1153 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:22,680 is it's a either abridge your electrical 1154 00:55:29,060 --> 00:55:25,890 lines or that's probably that's a very 1155 00:55:32,780 --> 00:55:29,070 detailed photo that I was able to pick 1156 00:55:34,550 --> 00:55:32,790 up and yeah that that's that's really 1157 00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,560 that's an incredible shot yeah that's 1158 00:55:38,780 --> 00:55:36,480 photo number three so you know like I 1159 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:38,790 said we're going to note some of them up 1160 00:55:46,670 --> 00:55:41,850 on on the website for people to to look 1161 00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:46,680 at and we'll put the the websites up as 1162 00:55:52,430 --> 00:55:48,900 well both yours and the ones that you go 1163 00:55:55,220 --> 00:55:52,440 to so we are almost ready to wrap up 1164 00:55:56,810 --> 00:55:55,230 here and it's been really great speaking 1165 00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:56,820 to you but I want to give you a moment 1166 00:56:02,420 --> 00:55:59,520 or two to speak to the Mars discoveries 1167 00:56:05,980 --> 00:56:02,430 and this is ken Pfeiffer speaking 10 x 4 1168 00:56:10,250 --> 00:56:05,990 yes I I need Kate here to keep me 1169 00:56:12,650 --> 00:56:10,260 professional in the yeah I understand 1170 00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:12,660 now to mark demars hear about that it's 1171 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:15,960 photo number two listen you're in a 1172 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:18,290 Newton crater discovered by myself on 1173 00:56:23,620 --> 00:56:21,450 1123 2011 as you can you know for years 1174 00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:23,630 now I've been I've been doing this and 1175 00:56:29,860 --> 00:56:27,180 this here looks to me like explicitly 1176 00:56:33,260 --> 00:56:29,870 that that that object to the right it's 1177 00:56:35,540 --> 00:56:33,270 this is not man-made I'm sorry this is 1178 00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:35,550 not natural this is you know who knows 1179 00:56:40,190 --> 00:56:37,260 what this is in a matter of fact this 1180 00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,200 whole area looks like a looks like a 1181 00:56:45,230 --> 00:56:42,960 crash site I mean if their stuff all 1182 00:56:49,130 --> 00:56:45,240 over the place and and you know this is 1183 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:49,140 I saw this and it jumped out all of the 1184 00:56:54,020 --> 00:56:51,090 page at me and I'm saying we know what 1185 00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:54,030 the that's that's not natural I mean 1186 00:57:00,830 --> 00:56:58,010 that that's a that's something that that 1187 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:00,840 someone put there and you know I still 1188 00:57:05,930 --> 00:57:03,570 don't I still don't know what it is does 1189 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:05,940 NASA have any comments on these pictures 1190 00:57:11,690 --> 00:57:10,050 uh no they they do all they haven't 1191 00:57:14,060 --> 00:57:11,700 gotten back to me I'm use a microphone 1192 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:14,070 I'm expecting this I'm expecting a man 1193 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:14,650 in black 1194 00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:18,490 back on my porridge uh that's another 1195 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:22,030 story but are they they're putting these 1196 00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:23,770 you know they're there they're putting 1197 00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:26,320 the information out there but the only 1198 00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:29,380 problem is NASA must have a thousand 1199 00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:33,160 websites it seems to me that that they 1200 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:35,320 had put the information out there but 1201 00:57:40,140 --> 00:57:37,690 they're trying to make it as hard as 1202 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:40,150 possible for you to find it let me ask 1203 00:57:45,570 --> 00:57:42,850 you one final question actually we have 1204 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:45,580 two more questions but the final 1205 00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:47,290 question I want to ask you about the 1206 00:57:57,870 --> 00:57:53,830 photos is do you have a good website to 1207 00:58:03,150 --> 00:57:57,880 go to for close-up photos of the far 1208 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:03,160 side of the moon hmm I would yes I do I 1209 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:05,290 was a matter of fact I would probably 1210 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:09,250 say that let me go to it here right here 1211 00:58:16,170 --> 00:58:11,290 at this the that's the one I was talking 1212 00:58:20,490 --> 00:58:16,180 about the nomenclature one yes yes that 1213 00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:20,500 would probably be the the ideal 1 i'm 1214 00:58:25,890 --> 00:58:23,020 still looking for the perfect website 1215 00:58:29,730 --> 00:58:25,900 but as a matter of fact i think that now 1216 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:29,740 i think about it i think google i love 1217 00:58:35,070 --> 00:58:33,010 google I'm not me Duke earth now if you 1218 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:35,080 download google earth they also have you 1219 00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:37,210 can also look at the moon you look at 1220 00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:42,160 mars and you can also find these high 1221 00:58:49,170 --> 00:58:47,440 definition areas on Google Mars and also 1222 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:49,180 google moon as a matter of fact you can 1223 00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:54,730 go to the Apollo you can see all of the 1224 00:59:01,440 --> 00:58:58,930 Apollo high-definition 360 images that 1225 00:59:04,590 --> 00:59:01,450 the apparently the astronauts took on 1226 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:04,600 the moon and I'm still searching through 1227 00:59:08,070 --> 00:59:06,730 these these high-definition photos as a 1228 00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:08,080 matter of fact last night I found 1229 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:12,280 another UFO on their horizon of you know 1230 00:59:17,820 --> 00:59:14,410 one of these of photos that the 1231 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:17,830 astronauts took of one of the areas that 1232 00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:19,930 they were working on so I mean there's 1233 00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:22,360 so much information out there and I and 1234 00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:24,670 I like i said i think google moon or 1235 00:59:31,530 --> 00:59:28,240 Google Mars is also an excellent source 1236 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:31,540 finding these strange anomalies oh you 1237 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:33,730 know on on the Moon or Mars well thank 1238 00:59:40,650 --> 00:59:36,730 you and just to wrap things up I'm 1239 00:59:43,620 --> 00:59:40,660 wondering if you um what you're up to 1240 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:43,630 what do you have plans for any new 1241 00:59:48,570 --> 00:59:46,090 research are you going to continue on in 1242 00:59:50,310 --> 00:59:48,580 the very wonderful way you are working 1243 00:59:53,010 --> 00:59:50,320 or do you have something different in 1244 00:59:56,730 --> 00:59:53,020 mind for upcoming for the future or 1245 01:00:02,250 --> 00:59:56,740 what's up with ken Pfeiffer for the rest 1246 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:02,260 of 2015 into 2016 well basically I would 1247 01:00:06,420 --> 01:00:03,970 love to get on a hanger one that's the 1248 01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:06,430 new TV show well it's not new they had 1249 01:00:09,810 --> 01:00:08,110 it last year and was renewed that's a 1250 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:09,820 MUFON show and quite frankly I think 1251 01:00:15,870 --> 01:00:13,930 it's one of the best UFO shows on TV and 1252 01:00:19,350 --> 01:00:15,880 i would love to hopefully get on here 1253 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:19,360 someday well we've luck with that ya 1254 01:00:24,810 --> 01:00:21,850 know I I that would be pretty incredible 1255 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:24,820 but no I'm just doing my thing here I'm 1256 01:00:31,020 --> 01:00:28,570 I had photos every day to my websites 1257 01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:31,030 and then my facebook page and I'm just 1258 01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:33,310 I'm just plugging away here trying to 1259 01:00:37,950 --> 01:00:35,680 find out the truth well thank you so 1260 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:37,960 much ken it's been a pleasure talking to 1261 01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:40,330 you really in need and it's been fun 1262 01:00:45,570 --> 01:00:42,670 speaking about UFOs again for a change 1263 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:45,580 that's one of my favorite topics yes yes 1264 01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:48,130 mine as well and you have done yeoman's 1265 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:50,590 work out there in the service and thank 1266 01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:52,570 you very much yes thank you can and 1267 01:00:58,110 --> 01:00:55,510 you're a wonderful resource yeah yep 1268 01:00:59,700 --> 01:00:58,120 pollution can take you your sweethearts 1269 01:01:02,670 --> 01:00:59,710 and then it's an honor to be on your 1270 01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:02,680 podcast thank you thank you have a great 1271 01:01:10,620 --> 01:01:06,760 day Andy happy hunting yes indeed okay 1272 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:10,630 bye-bye okay so that was a very 1273 01:01:17,550 --> 01:01:13,690 interesting presentation by our friend 1274 01:01:19,890 --> 01:01:17,560 can pfeiffer the I the head of New 1275 01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:19,900 Jersey MUFON and also I don't know how 1276 01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:22,360 we even covers on yeah the covers 1277 01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:24,070 Vermont and wrote on that's a long trip 1278 01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:28,240 for the gentleman in any case um just to 1279 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:32,950 wrap things up mom we are going to ask 1280 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:37,210 you to put out questions for us things 1281 01:01:41,109 --> 01:01:40,450 that you want to hear about make note on 1282 01:01:45,819 --> 01:01:41,119 our 1283 01:01:49,390 --> 01:01:45,829 website leave leave comments of all 1284 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:49,400 sorts and please like us on our 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captain Andrew Danziger who has been 1299 01:02:47,079 --> 01:02:42,799 writing occasionally in the news he's a 1300 01:02:50,620 --> 01:02:47,089 pilot and he's had UFO sightings he has 1301 01:02:55,269 --> 01:02:50,630 some very interesting opinions on some 1302 01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:55,279 high visibility airline issues that have 1303 01:02:59,979 --> 01:02:57,920 been going on and you know you're 1304 01:03:03,759 --> 01:02:59,989 welcome to look him up on on the Daily 1305 01:03:06,579 --> 01:03:03,769 News but he is quite the man in the news 1306 01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:06,589 and we're proud to be able to have him 1307 01:03:13,210 --> 01:03:10,430 on our podcast hopefully on the 1308 01:03:15,759 --> 01:03:13,220 fifteenth mm-hmm ahead and we're really 1309 01:03:18,430 --> 01:03:15,769 looking forward to it but again please 1310 01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:18,440 you know just just right on the blog or 1311 01:03:22,989 --> 01:03:20,589 on the website whatever would you think 1312 01:03:24,759 --> 01:03:22,999 because we're not just doing this for 1313 01:03:26,380 --> 01:03:24,769 the two of us we'd like to know how 1314 01:03:29,890 --> 01:03:26,390 everybody else feels about these 1315 01:03:32,499 --> 01:03:29,900 subjects and the more interest you have 1316 01:03:34,359 --> 01:03:32,509 and wider the interest goes perhaps one 1317 01:03:36,370 --> 01:03:34,369 day we will get to the bottom of all 1318 01:03:38,979 --> 01:03:36,380 this because something's up there and 1319 01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:38,989 it's flying around yes indeed and we 1320 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:42,319 thank once again our engineer and our 1321 01:03:49,150 --> 01:03:45,650 voiceover gentleman mr. Nate Duffy and 1322 01:03:52,749 --> 01:03:49,160 and so we're going to say a fond 1323 01:03:54,730 --> 01:03:52,759 farewell yep and you know keep looking 1324 01:03:57,550 --> 01:03:54,740 out because something's up their keep 1325 01:04:15,880 --> 01:03:57,560 your eyes to the skies that's right okay 1326 01:04:18,970 --> 01:04:15,890 see you in two weeks okay welcome to 1327 01:04:23,050 --> 01:04:18,980 shattered reality with your hosts kate 1328 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:23,060 valentine and Farrugia prepare to have